User talk:Günther Frager

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-- Wikimedia Commons Welcome (talk) 01:05, 1 February 2023 (UTC) Buenas noches entonces como hago para utilizar esa imagen como la otra página de wikipedia si puede utilizarla: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Total_War_Saga:_Troy&wprov=rarw1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marius F (talk • contribs) 00:14, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

My Tears Richochet from The Eras Tour

Hi, I changed the author and its respective work from the file My Tears Ricochet from The Eras Tour which now is from a Tik Tok video from the user ivyh0ax and it should not be eligible for erasure. WeNeverGoOutOfStyle (talk) 23:52, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi, the first photograph is still available, and the second one, despite its low quality, belongs to a video that does not have a free license. Cheers. Günther Frager (talk) 00:06, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

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•  Best in Scope. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:37, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 04:36, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

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File:Gerard Batliner Office.jpg

Added topic in discussion area regarding recent marking of speedy deletion. TheBritinator (talk) 00:39, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

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•  Support Useful and used --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:12, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

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•  Support Useful and used --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:19, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:12, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

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•  Support Useful and used --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:18, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:11, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

--VICBot2 (talk) 00:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Photos by Avgust Lešnik

Dear Günther, I've helped Avgust Lešnik enter Wikimedia Commons to publish his photos of his deceased colleagues and include them into the respective Wikipedia articles, also written by him. He was the editor of the printed publications where his photos were published before. Please trust colleagues Wikipedians when they say they are the authors of the photos and don't discourage Avgust's endeavour with unnecessary VRTS-demands. --Hladnikm (talk) 07:07, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Dear @Hladnikm I made my request because of two things: the uploaded photos are published and thus subject to copyright, and he is a new user. Both are valid motives to ask for explicit permission that consist of sending an e-mail (there is a template already on COM:VRTS) from his academic account. I find it laudable that you encourage your colleagues to join Commons, but I think we don't agree on what trust means. I would find a lack of trust on my side if I start challenging your works after you have already proved over and over that you are the author of your uploads. Perhaps out of the scope on this discussion, but being the editor of a book does not imply one is the copyright holder of its photographs. Thanks. Günther Frager (talk) 12:51, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

To speed up the VRTS-processing, here (https://slov.si/doc/lesnik_carni_impressum.pdf and https://slov.si/doc/lesnik_britovsek_impressum.pdf) are the impressums of the books where the authorship of Avgust Lešnik as the photographer of Ludvik Čarni and Marjan Britovšek is documented. Of course, there is still a slight possibility that this Avgust Lešnik is some other person with the same name :) --Hladnikm (talk) 15:57, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

I thought I was clear when I wrote that the editor argument was out of scope. I was always sure Avgust Lešnik took these photographs, as some of the copies on the Web cite him as the photographer. What I asked is a proof (to be submitted to VRTS team, not to me) that the Commons account named User:Lesnik Avgust was opened by that person, and that was the message I wrote on my revert Special:Diff/767293289. Had the account uploaded unpublished photos, we wouldn't be having this conversation, so please keep your sarcastic comments to yourself. Thanks. Günther Frager (talk) 17:23, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

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•  Support Useful & Used --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 04:47, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
•  Support --GRDN711 (talk) 13:46, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Result: 2 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:08, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

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•  Best in Scope --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 04:49, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:08, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

--VICBot2 (talk) 00:21, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

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Mujeres indolentes by Alfredo Guttero.
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•  Support Useful and used --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:38, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 04:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

--VICBot2 (talk) 00:20, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

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•  Support Nice photo by a noted photographer; could be useful. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:54, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
•  Support --GRDN711 (talk) 08:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 04:44, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

--VICBot2 (talk) 00:20, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Autopatroller

Hi, I gave you the Autopatroller right. Yann (talk) 12:34, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

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 Support Best in scope and used. --Tagooty (talk) 06:29, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

•  Comment Thanks for the nomination, Günther Frager, and please note how I edited the scope so as not to have "Category" showing. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:31, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:13, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

--VICBot2 (talk) 00:19, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

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•  Support Useful and used --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:22, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:24, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

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•  Support Useful and used --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:10, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:24, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

--VICBot2 (talk) 00:20, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Viele Löschanträge

Hallo Günter Frager,

statt Einzellöschanträgen für jedes Foto, das eine Skulptur eines bestimmten Künstlers zeigt, wären Sammellöschanträge (für alle gleich gelagerten Fälle) für alle Beteiligten mit deutlich weniger Aufwand verbunden. Bei ihrer Erstellung hilft VisualFileChange. Gruß --Rosenzweig τ 10:10, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

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 Support Best in scope and used. --Tagooty (talk) 04:41, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:05, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

--VICBot2 (talk) 00:21, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

File:ОльгаПодойницына 2022.jpg

Dear colleague, you have marked this file as "Media missing permission". Meanwhile, its author, right when uploading it, indicated that he was posting this file under the terms of the CC-BY-SA-4.0 license. Is there any other permissions needed for its publication in this case? I would really hate to have this file deleted (and I don't see any reason for this) – it is very well suited for illustrating Olga Podoinitsyna's article (in Russian). If there is a misunderstanding in this case, I would be grateful for its positive resolution. Thank you! Vesan99 (talk) 21:33, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

@Vesan99 it is a photo taken by a professional photographer. It may be the uploaded or it may be not. That is why I marked it as "missing permission". To keep the image the uploaded needs to send an explicit permission via a COM:VRT ticket. I hope this dissipates your doubts. Günther Frager (talk) 22:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, thank you, I seem to understand the source of the problems - I just don't often see photos taken by professionals on Wikipedia (and use them in articles I have written). But I am not sure that this professional photographer is well versed in the rules and requirements of Wikipedia (if you look at his contribution to the project, he is rather a newcomer here). I will try to contact him through the mechanisms of Wikipedia and ask him to fulfill the conditions you specified. But during this time, the file will already be deleted. Can you extend the review procedure for this file before deleting it? Or do I need to ask the author of the photo to reload it, at the same time sending permission to the address you specified? I have never encountered this kind of problems with the files I uploaded, so I don't know these procedures well. Thank you for the exhaustive explanations! Vesan99 (talk) 23:13, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if it is deleted, once the permission is received an admin will normally undelete it. Also, one can explicitly ask for it here. Günther Frager (talk) 23:27, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Lil Tjay 2023 image

Please explain where the video description doesn't say "Creative Commons"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7MkZH2PT94&ab_channel=MixtapeMadness https://imgur.com/a/xEGZYdj Shoot for the Stars (talk) 21:11, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

@Shoot for the Stars Instead of asking for explanations, you should put the right link in the fist place. The source was https://youtube.com/shorts/v7MkZH2PT94?feature=shared and not the one you are citing. In the description also stated "COPYRIGHT: If you believe this video breaches your copyright, please direct your DMCA related emails to: info@mixtapemadness.com", something that one doesn't generally put when owning the copyright. Günther Frager (talk) 21:24, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

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Botaurus lentiginosus (American Bittern) in flight.
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•  Comment location is not important. You need to nominate best image of this species in flight with this scope: Botaurus lentiginosus (American Bittern) in flight. Charlesjsharp (talk) 18:48, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, I adjusted the scope. Günther Frager (talk) 19:28, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

•  Support Thanks. Charlesjsharp (talk) 21:31, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Look at the scope changes. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:42, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Result: 2 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:12, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

--VICBot2 (talk) 00:20, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Costa Rica imagenes

The images are not really mine, but I asked the owner of the images if I could publish his images, his answer was yes and that he will not state copyright, the author confirmed that he accepts that the images are used on Wikipedia . Dey H.E (talk) 20:47, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

@Dey H.E then ask the author to send the permission, see the procedure here: COM:VRT/es. Günther Frager (talk) 20:51, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

What is wrong with you

I made a original Album Cover just for the Wikipedia and I got Owner's permission why are you keep deleting it? Also you are deleting 50 year old album covers they have no copyright you are just randomly doing that??? Lim10Sevdalısı (talk) 19:31, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

@Lim10Sevdalısı I think you are not aware of copyright laws in Turkey. Works are protected by copyright for 70 years after the death of the author. If the authors of album covers died the day after publication, we would still need to wait for another 20 years until they enter in the public domain in Turkey, and even more time until they enter in the public domain in the United States where images are hosted. Moreover, you cannot re-license works with CC-BY, as you did, if you are not the copyright holder. If you got permission from the copyright holder, then you can follow COM:VRT as the message on your talk page indicates. Thanks. Günther Frager (talk) 19:48, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Its not about the people The Maker of This Album Covers (The Record Companies) doesnt exist they shut down years ago no one is gonna sue you! You guys doesnt even know the what i am talking about, you are just looking the album cover and you say this is probably copyrighted and i will delete this Lim10Sevdalısı (talk) 19:52, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

No one is gonna sue you? You definitively don't know the policies of Commons, please go and read COM:PCP. Günther Frager (talk) 19:59, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Brother we are talking about non existing company, those companies are long gone im talking about that, no one has the copyrights Lim10Sevdalısı (talk) 20:07, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

That the company closed years or decades ago doesn't mean that its assets don't have an owner. For example, if you go bankrupt the creditors will seize your property. Günther Frager (talk) 20:25, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

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Konstanzer Seenachtfest - fireworks display.
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 Comment As the image depicts one aspect of the festival, I suggest changing the scope to "Konstanzer Seenachtfest - fireworks display" --Tagooty (talk) 15:29, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Done. Günther Frager (talk) 23:14, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

 Thank you.  Support Best in scope and used. --Tagooty (talk) 03:50, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

•  Oppose Not a valuable scope. Charlesjsharp (talk) 20:27, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

 Info @Charlesjsharp: The festival is described in a Wiki article. The article states: "The highlight on Saturday evening is the fireworks display, one of the largest lake fireworks displays in Europe." (translation by deepl.com). Hence, I believe it is sufficiently notable. --Tagooty (talk) 03:15, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Can one snap of a firework display be valuable? This is only my interpretation of VI scopes. Others will surely disagree! Charlesjsharp (talk) 08:17, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

This is one of 3 such images in Commons. It is the best of the 3. This makes it "the most valuable illustration of its kind on Wikimedia Commons" (VI criterion #1). It is IMO a good image of a fireworks display
@Günther Frager: I notice that the image lacks a geotag. Could you please add an estimated geotag? --Tagooty (talk) 08:55, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

I added the approximate coordinates. Günther Frager (talk) 12:46, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

•  Best in Scope, and the fact that it has an article on de.wikipedia aught to prove that it's a useful scope. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:56, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Result: 2 support, 1 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 04:48, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

--VICBot2 (talk) 00:22, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Question and interests

Hello Günther; first of all, I need to know if you were born in Argentina; if so, I could write to you in Spanish. And the reason why I'm asking you this is I noted that (most of) your DR are strongly tied with Argentine works, more specifically URAA-related photographs and PD-old-70 works (talking from my experience in having uploaded some of the nominated files).

I'm also surprised by the fact your user account is pretty recent so I guess you could have been active on Commons before of that. I wish my message don't make you feel unconfortable, that's not the intention. But your case caught my attention. Fma12 (talk) 23:37, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Hola Fma12, sí, me puedes escribir en español. Mis intereses son variados y no solo me dedico a crear consultas de borrado. Sé que muchas de mis acciones afectan tus archivos y en lo posible trato de diversificar las categorías que tengo en la mira para no dar la errónea impresión que me estoy ensañando con alguien. Preguntas de mi vida personal prefiero no responderlas, pero no tengo problemas en conversar sobre otros temas relacionados a este proyecto. Saludos. Günther Frager (talk) 00:29, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Ante todo, gracias por responderme. Sí, efectivamente tus acciones han borrado muchos de los archivos que yo subí, lo cual lamento porque dudo que la WMF reciba alguna demanda en EEUU por una foto de Bochini o Ricardo Iorio y se han perdido imágenes valiosas como las de conciertos en Argentina, tapas de discos, acontecimientos deportivos, entre otras, cuyos pedidos de eliminación habían sido mínimos.

Si por "vida personal" te referìs a tu nacionalidad, no considero ese tema algo específicamente "personal", pero si preferís no responder estás en tu derecho y lo respeto. Te había consultado porque tu conocimiento de copyright/licencias y tu proceder aquí evidentemente no se comparecen con los de una cuenta tan reciente. Por eso estoy más que seguro que sos un usuario de larga data, pero contribuías con otro nick. De todas maneras no soy del FBI y tampoco me corresponde determinar responsabilidades. Gracias nuevamente, saludos. Fma12 (talk) 14:36, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Este proyecto, a diferencia de la mayoría de la web, tiene un lineamiento bastante estricto respecto al copyright. Si subiste todos esos archivos sin saber que no seguían las políticas de licenciamiento, realmente lamento el tiempo que empleaste en seleccionar, recortar y subir cada una de tus fotos. Me hubiese gustado que la comunidad lo hubiese detectado antes. Ahora si lo subiste conscientemente, supongo que lo hiciste midiendo el riesgo y lamento que hayas perdido tu tiempo porque creo que la gran mayoría de las fotos que aportaste no están en esa categoría. Que WMF reciba o no una denuncia, la verdad que no me interesa, mi punto de vista es otro. Los términos de copyright me parecen excesivos y la única forma legal de combatirlos a mi entender es usarlos en contra de los que poseen copyrights. Iorio y su discográfica están encantados de que sus fans le hagan publicidad gratis, por ejemplo cuando escriben artículos sobre él y su música. Ahora ¿por qué no son capaces de liberar un par de fotos como agradecimiento? De Bochini ¿por qué Independiente no le regala a sus hinchas algunas imágenes de su máximo ídolo?

En lo referido a la pérdida de archivos, quiero recordarte que otros proyectos son más laxos con respecto al copyright. Por ejemplo, enwiki aloja imágenes bajo fair-use. Claramente no se pueden transferir todos los archivos, pero sí la tapa de los albums, algunos retratos y las fotos de hechos históricos. Saludos. Günther Frager (talk) 19:04, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

En realidad cuando empecé acá en 2006, bastaba que las fotos fueran PD en Argentina; luego surgió el tema del URAA, y ese debate en el cual se consensuó cierta flexibilidad que luego mutó en política estricta nuevamente. Lo que ocurre aquí es que algunos admin dejan las imágenes, y otros las borran, o sea, no hay un criterio uniforme o cada uno decide según su parecer, lo que puede confundir a los inexpertos o recién llegados.

Con respecto a "la gran mayoría de las fotos que aportaste no están en esa categoría" estás equivocado, he aportado muchísimas fotos históricas anteriores a 1971, además de montones de imágenes propias (fotos y gráficos) que superan largamente el número de imágenes que pudieran haberme eliminado.

El punto que planteás: "Los términos de copyright me parecen excesivos y la única forma legal de combatirlos a mi entender es usarlos en contra de los que poseen copyrights" encierra en sí cierta contradricción a mi entender. No creo que borrando sus fotos (útiles para ilustrar artículos) de los servidores en WMF ayude a evitar una supuesta publicidad gratuita. Ahora reformulo tu pregunta: "por qué Iorio o el C.A. independiente deberían liberar sus fotos de copyright? ¿Para dárselos a la WMF? Así como vos protegés los intereses de Wikimedia, el club o los músicos tienen derecho también a proteger sus propios intereses (y el trabajo de sus fotógrafos). Mas aún, en la Argentina hay montones de fotos en dominio público de Iorio y Bochini en los archivos de El Gráfico, diarios, o revistas de rock, que pueden ser libremente utilizadas por cualquier blog o web local. Es la misma WM quien limita el uso de esas imágenes en sus proyectos.

Y en relación al último punto, sí conozco los términos de fair use images en la WP en inglés, de hecho he subido muchas imágenes ahí bajo esa modalidad. Saludos. Fma12 (talk) 21:13, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

No leíste bien mi frase, hay una negación "la gran mayoría de las fotos que aportaste no están en esa categoría". Yo coincido contigo la mayoría de tus imágenes no tienen problemas.

No veo la contradicción. Vamos por partes, nadie le da nada a WMF, cuando alguien usa una licencia libre es para todo el mundo. Mucha gente participa en Commons, incluyéndome, porque el esfuerzo de las horas donadas son para todo el mundo. Nadie obliga a Iorio a regalar ninguna foto, pero tampoco Iorio puede exigir tener una página de Wikipedia, ni que haya fotos suyas en Commons. ¿Quiere proteger su propiedad intelectual? Ningún problema, que la proteja. En la práctica gracias al esfuerzo de los colaboradores es posible que Wikipedia o Commons esté entre los primeros resultados de búsqueda. No sería descabellado que una linda entrada en Wikipedia se traduzca en más ventas. Basta mirar la cantidad de artículos que son borrados a diario por publicitarios. Si esa lógica funciona, Iorio podría estar interesado en mejorar su entrada. ¿Si no le interesa? Tendremos una foto sacada de un celular, o esperaremos a que un fotógrafo done parte de su trabajo. No es la muerte de nadie.

Sí, muchas fotos están en el dominio público de Argentina, y como dices se pueden alojar en servidores locales. Pero Commons no está ni alojada en Argentina, ni se rige por leyes argentinas, ni su principal público es el argentino. ¿Podría WMF alojar cualquier contenido hasta que reciba una orden DMCA? Si, es lo que su jurisdicción les exige, pero no es lo que quieren y por eso tienen COM:PCP como una política fundamental. Si el Gráfico no tiene pensado explotar en el exterior parte de su propiedad intelectual, entonces no debería tener problema en usar una licencia permisiva con parte de su material que está en el dominio público argentino. Como no estamos en una wiki alojada en Argentina ¿Por qué tenemos que estar a la merced de los que pueda llegar a hacer el Gráfico en los próximos 20 o 30 años?

Hay muchos proyectos dentro de WMF. Las wikis pueden tener servidores locales. Muchas wikis permiten fair-use, otras como la alemana solo aloja imágenes en el dominio público de DACH (Alemania, Austria y Suiza). Creo que la wiki en español fue de las que optó por no usar un servidor local. Es cierto que hay restricciones, pero yo las entiendo como decisiones estratégicas para maximizar el impacto. No te olvides que el propósito de Commons es ser un repositorio de imágenes y para ello necesita productores de contenidos y consumidores de contenidos. Por ejemplo, permitir contenido no comercial aumentaría significativamente los productores, pero reduciría drásticamente los consumidores. Saludos. Günther Frager (talk) 01:15, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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Shoot for the Stars (talk) 04:48, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

File:Alkoholismo.jpg

Un saludo. Como veo más arriba, te puedo escribir en español, gracias. El archivo File:Alkoholismo.jpg es copia de un cartel que fue público en los años treinta y no tenía copyright; de hecho lo publicó el sindicato CNT-AIT al que pertenezco, hoy llamado simplemente CNT. Tengo copia en papel (de donde he hecho la foto) y las hay por todos lados. No la he sacado de la red. Las fotos File:Thumbnail Rocio de Frutos-2.jpg y File:Rocio de Frutos-1.jpg las hizo un amigo mío, que por supuesto me las mandó y me autorizó para esa publicación; tampoco están sacadas de la red. Yo estaba presente en ese recital del 81-a Hispana Kongreso de Esperanto, mi amigo filmó y luego sacó las fotos para Vikipedio. Su vídeo sí lo puso en Youtube, pero las fotos como tal no. Estoy a disposición para más explicaciones, pero creo que los tres archivos deben quedarse, si no hay específicamente regla en contra.--Kani (talk) 21:51, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Hola @Kani: , vayamos por partes. Usted no puede poner que son obras de su autoría cuando no la son. Ni usted diseñó el afiche, ni sacó las fotos / el video. Que el cartel esté por todos lados o que usted sea dueño de una réplica no quiere decir que no esté protegido por derechos de autor. Dicho cartel fue creado por Eduardo Vicente (1909-1968) y todavía está protegido por derechos de autor en España (70 años luego de la muerte de su autor). En lo referido a las fotos de Rocío de Frutos, si su amigo sacó dichas fotos, posible aunque un poco extraño debido a la baja resolución, va a tener que pedirle que envíe una autorización al equipo COM:VRT/es. Saludos. Günther Frager (talk) 02:08, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Discusión sobre copyright

Hola Gunther, qué tal. Te etiqueté en la talkpage de un editor que me dejó una advertencia (insólita) "stop uploading copyright violations", ya que me vi en la necesidad de aclararle que NO subo archivos con copyright. Debido a que recientemente me dejaste varios DR sobre imágenes PD-URAA y algunas de esas imágenes fueron marcadas directamente como "copyvio" en lugar de DR, alguno de estos muchachos pudiera haber interpretado que soy un subidor serial de archivos con copyright.

Más allá de lo improcedente que me pareció esa advertencia, me parece justo ponerte al tanto del motivo por el cual te cito en su discusión. Por supuesto, sos libre de aportar tu punto de vista ahí, si es que te parece procedente hacerlo. Saludos, Fma12 (talk) 10:19, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Hola @Fma12: dejé un comentario en la discusión donde explico el motivo de SD. No es mi intención que recibas ese tipo advertencia y voy a tratar en el futuro de evitar SD tu contribuciones. Lo que te voy a pedir es que si coincidís con el motivo en las fotos post-1989 dejes un mensaje en las DR. Saludos. Günther Frager (talk) 11:24, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Ahì vi el comentario, te agradezco mucho la pronta respuesta y la colaboración. No había dejado mi feedback hasta ahora en los DR no por mala voluntad, sino al contrario, porque consideraba que no había nada que refutar. Pero contá que a partir de ahora voy a dejar mi comentario soportando la eliminación de los archivos post-1989.

Con respecto a los copyvio, este usuario ni siquiera es admin, pero advierte como si lo fuera. Creo que tu respuesta fue màs que elocuente para despejar toda duda sobre mi buena fe, y aprecio mucho eso. Lo único que te pido es que si marcás algún archivo mío como copyvio, no dejes la notificación en mi talkpage, que lo eliminen y ya. Muchas gracias nuevamente, saludos. Fma12 (talk) 15:14, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Bellydance fotos

Hi Günther, bitte entferne die schnelllöschungen. Alle Bilder des Projektes „Wikipedia goes Bellydance“ wurden mit Zustimmung der jeweiligen Personen abgebildet (alle auf Instagram). Ich werde die einzelnen Personen anschreiben, damit schnellstmöglich die sich an die permission-Stelle wenden. LG, Shark Shark1989z (talk) 23:08, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

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•  Best in Scope --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:23, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
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Pilar Gil Miguel

Hola @Günther Frager me has etiquetado para borrado las imágenes de Pilar Gil Miguel, que efectivamente son del Grupo Prisa (como indico en la subida de la foto) al que pertenece El País. Según la normativa española, marcando el origen de la imagen y habiendo sido ya publicada en un medio de información, siempre que no sea usada con fines comerciales (como es el caso) se pueden usar. En caso de que no se pueda, eliminaré la foto, pero he solicitado los permisos al grupo prisa incluso (aunque no sé dónde debo incluirlos), para evitar borrados y, sobre todo, porque quiero contribuir y no saltarme las normas de wikicommons. Gracias por todo, JorgeVBis (talk) 17:14, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@JorgeVBis: la política de Commons requiere que las imágenes estén en el dominio público (por lo general son fotos antiguas) o con tengan una licencia libre, que incluye la libre explotación comercial, algo que claramente dichas fotos no cumplen. Más aún, usted, quizás por error, puso que dichas fotos tenían una licencia CC-BY-SA, algo que no es cierto. Entiendo que quiera colaborar, pero lo que corresponde es primero pedir al poseedor de los derechos de autor que envíe una permiso (vea COM:VRT/es), o subir imágenes que claramente posean una licencia libre. Saludos. Günther Frager (talk) 18:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Gracias, @Günther Frager le solicité permiso al Grupo Prisa, me indicaron que sí estaba libre de derechos pero que iban a enviarme el permiso. Si me lo dieran ¿si podría subirse, verdad? Repito, en ningún caso quiero romper la ley de derechos de autor. Ni tampoco ser bloqueado, nuevamente, gracias por todo y por la paciencia. JorgeVBis (talk) 20:20, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

@JorgeVBis: como le indiqué anteriormente, el poseedor de los derechos de autor que por lo general es el fotógrafo (Samuel Sánchez en este caso) tiene que mandar un permiso explícito al equipo COM:VRT. Una vez que verifiquen el permiso y lo aprueben van a restaurar la imagen. Saludos. Günther Frager (talk) 23:17, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Muchas gracias por toda la información, como te comenté les pedí permisos y ahora lo que me han enviado es un enlace de su página de recursos fotográficos en flirck, espero que así no haya problemas. Nuevamente, mil gracias por toda la información. JorgeVBis (talk) 10:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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•  Comment Can you change scope to include original title and artist please. Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Done! Günther Frager (talk) 13:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Support thanks. Charlesjsharp (talk) 14:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:01, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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Review of Category:Photos by Jan Engelhardt

Hi Günther Frager,

I saw that you were on the Reviewers group, could you check the category Category:Photos by Jan Engelhardt ? (images like File:Auxiliary building of Supreme People's Assembly in Pyongyang, North Korea.jpg are in waiting of a review).

Would you be willing to review the category ?

Thank you in advance and have a nice day ! — Koreller (talk) 10:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of File:Πολεοδομικό Σχέδιο - Φυλακές Κορυδαλλού, 3 Οκτωμβρίου 1960 01.jpg

Hi there,

Regarding the deletion of File:Πολεοδομικό Σχέδιο - Φυλακές Κορυδαλλού, 3 Οκτωμβρίου 1960 01.jpg, I would like to inform you that since the work (architectural plan) was made by a public worker, during his work as a public worker, it is permitted in Greece to be distributed as far as I am aware.

Thank you and have a nice day, Michail Angelos Georgoulas (talk) 19:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

@Michail Angelos Georgoulas Could you include the actual source? Using the frontpage of a website that even have a "All right reserved" doesn't help. Also, if the work is in the public domain for some law, you should use the correct label. The label CC0 is when the copyright holder explicitly assigns it. It converted it into a normal DR. Günther Frager (talk) 21:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

You might actually be right, not completely sure, since the frontpage of the website actually stated "All Rights Reserved". But I thought I was correct, since the architectural plan was from a document in the website, which was from 1960. In any case, I really don't think I can find it any more, since I had digged quite a bit to find it in the first place. But I remember that the website (it was a Greek public service official website) essentially hosted a map service within it, where you could see the work I uploaded, by clicking on the Royal Deecree (back then Greece was a Kingdom) for the construction of this prison. (Korydallos Prison) - and the architectural plans came along with the aforementioned official document. I am still very confused about licences by the way, and especially so since Greek Law is very complicated with many changes... Michail Angelos Georgoulas (talk) 04:54, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

What happened wrong the TV Show posters?

I added copyright info, but you tell me where did wrong? Trbatuhankara (talk) 21:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

@Trbatuhankara Could you tell where did you ge the information that the images have a CC0 license? The links you provided doesn't make such claim. Günther Frager (talk) 21:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

when shared other websites/social medias, copyright claim here but not takedown (like Youtube content ID). not should allowed TV poster if this site? Because not allowed high resolution on local wikipedia. Is not CC0, what licence dont know. I'm to new to wikipedia/wikimedia and learning Trbatuhankara (talk) 21:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Please read Commons licensing policy, but shortly if you don't know the license, then don't upload it to Commons. The big production companies that release these TV programs in general don't release their products under free licenses, as they sole business is copyright.

If you are trying to add the images to the Turkish wiki, you can check if they allow local uploads. Some wikis like the English one allow uploading images locally using a fair use criteria (something not allowed in Commons.) Günther Frager (talk) 21:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

ok thanks. will there any sanction on my account? even if unknowly; accepting my mistake Trbatuhankara (talk) 22:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

I don't think so, everyone makes mistakes and new users sometimes are overwhelmed with information and policies. The problem would be if you consciously continue doing it. Günther Frager (talk) 00:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of File: Lance D. Rodgers.jpg

I got it from https://lancerodgersart.com/about-2/ alt text of photo give cc license. Double terri (talk) 18:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

The source you are giving doesn't have a Creative Commons license. Please avoid making such false claims as you might be blocked. Günther Frager (talk) 18:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

ill just remove it and try to take my own photo as he lives in my town. Double terri (talk) 19:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

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 Best in Scope--Alexander-93 (talk) 07:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
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 Best in Scope--Alexander-93 (talk) 18:53, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:04, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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"Scratching the Door" album cover

The Wiki page for "Scratching the Door: The First Recordings of the Flaming Lips" needs to include the album artwork. What should be done to include this with no copyright violations, since every other Wiki album page also displays the matching album artwork? Neateditor123 (talk) 16:15, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

@Neateditor123: you didn't create the artwork nor you are the copyright holder to release it under CC-BY-SA license as stated in the page. It is a copyright violation and it will removed from Commons under that ground. The English wikipedia allows uploading images that are copyrighted using a fair use rationale, something that Commons doesn't allow. Most of the album cover on Wikipedia are uploaded locally and not to Commons. See for example en:W:File:The_Flaming_Lips_-_Hear_It_Is.png. Günther Frager (talk) 16:23, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

remove sexual content, File:AR Buenos Aires (La Boca) 0702 007 (17215313465).jpg

remove sexual content, File:AR Buenos Aires (La Boca) 0702 007 (17215313465).jpg Royuoi (talk) 13:34, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

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•  Support Useful and used photo. --Thi (talk) 22:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:21, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

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•  Support Photo by important professional photographer. Chabuca Granda by Annemarie Heinrich would be perfect scope, but this is good. --Thi (talk) 20:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

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Giacinto Auriti

That photo was older than 20 years. Copyright in Italy expires after 20 years for photos without artistic value. Cats' photos (talk) 15:52, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Template:PD-Italy:

<<The country of origin of this photograph is Italy. It is in the public domain there because its copyright term has expired. According to Law for the Protection of Copyright and Neighbouring Rights n.633, 22 April 1941 and later revisions, images of people or of aspects, elements and facts of natural or social life, obtained with photographic process or with an analogue one, including reproductions of figurative art and film frames of film stocks (Art. 87) are protected for a period of 20 years from creation (Art. 92). This provision shall not apply to photographs of writings, documents, business papers, material objects, technical drawings and similar products (Art. 87). Italian law makes an important distinction between "works of photographic art" and "simple photographs" (Art. 2, § 7). Photographs that are "intellectual work with creative characteristics" are protected for 70 years after the author's death (Art. 32 bis), whereas simple photographs are protected for a period of 20 years from creation.>> Cats' photos (talk) 15:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Cats' photos if you are referring to File:Beppe Grillo and Giacinto Auriti.jpg or to File:Giacinto Auriti (cropped).jpg I never claimed they were copyrighted in Italy. I marked them for deletion because they are still copyrighted in the United States and I wrote it in the notice Photo published in Italy after 1996. Still copyrighted in the US due to Berne Convention.. Notice that the licensing policy requires images to have a free license or to be in the public domain in both its country of origin and in the US. Günther Frager (talk) 16:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

According to Berne Convention:

<<It shall be a matter for legislation in the countries of the Union to determine the term of protection of photographic works and that of works of applied art in so far as they are protected as artistic works; however, this term shall last at least until the end of a period of twenty-five years from the making of such a work.>>

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%20828/volume-828-I-11850-English.pdf

So, the status of copyrighted photo cannot be derived by being published in 1996. The photo has public domain status in front of both international and Italian law.

https://www.lettera43.it/giacinto-auriti-il-guru-monetario-anti-euro-di-beppe-grillo/ Cats' photos (talk) 16:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Cats' photos once a photo is published in Italy, it is copyrighted in all the members of the Berne Convetion. The US is one of them. The protection in the US is 70 years pma, and it doesn't apply the rule of shorter term. Günther Frager (talk) 16:20, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Pedido por avisos

Estoy hace un rato recibiendo toneladas de avisos de "copyvio" en mi talk page en tiempo real, pero la mayoría de imágenes no son violaciones fragrantes como indica el template, sino fotografías ya en dominio público en Argentina (y no en USA debido al bendito URAA, etc, etc), asunto que hemos hablado y discutido bastante.

En casos como File:Argentina copa america 1991.jpg esta imagen, que hasta tiene la marca de agua de El Gráfico, te pido por favor que las nomines como un DR regular y no como una copyvio directa. Entiendo tu voracidad y apuro por elininar imágenes, pero el tener tantos avisos de este tipo en mi talk page, puede traerme malos entendidos con algún admin creyendo que soy un violador serial de copyright, y exponerme a sanciones.

Gracias, Fma12 (talk) 18:24, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

@Fma12: cuando genero las notificaciones marco para que no te notifique, pero si te llegan igual voy a hacerlas con DR normales. Si tenés algún problema dame aviso asi puedo intervenir. Mil disculpas. Günther Frager (talk) 18:31, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Please respect my user talk page !

For the 5th time, you inserted your message in my user talk page, without precaution and check. You ruin this page. Please respect it !

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tisourcier#c-G%C3%BCnther_Frager-20240706120600-File:StephaneAudran-Italie-1989.jpg Tisourcier (talk) 12:25, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

@Tisourcier: those messages are generated automatically by the standard widget to nominate an image for deletion. It was and it is not my intention to "ruin" your page. It seems the previous message in your talk page is malformed and trips the renderer. You need to fix it yourself and probably use a bot to archive past conversations instead of manually removing them. Günther Frager (talk) 13:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

OK, I note that you are not apologizing. There is no valid reason why it should be up to me to edit my page when you are supposed to check every time you use an automated method on WP. I will have to clean my page again and I ask you once again not to do this in the future. Tisourcier (talk) 13:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

@Tisourcier: you will have the same problem when someone else place a comment in you talk page. If you wish, I can stop placing notification on you talk page. But be aware than the notification that Deletion Notification Bot 2 will place in your talk page will have the same problem. Günther Frager (talk) 13:28, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Bitte

Misch dich bitte nicht in meine Perspektivkorrektur eines von mir erstellten Fotos ein. Als ich das hochgeladen habe, kannte ich diese einfache Form der Bildbearbeitung nicht. --Chris06 (talk) 12:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

@Chris06: du darft nicht eine Datei überschreiben, lesse bitte COM:OVERWRITE. Eine Überschreibung ist nur erlaubt kurz nach dem Hochladen. Lade bitte die neue Version unter einem neuen Namen z.B. St. Vinzentius (Oberaußem) (1) (cropped).jpg hoch. Günther Frager (talk) 12:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Warum hast du das schon wieder überschrieben? Ich bin hier seit vielen Jahren aktiv und Perspektivkorrekturen werden von vielen Leuten vorgenommen, die sind zulässig. Ich habe dich hier angeschrieben und trotzdem bertreibst du einen Editwar! Ich habe deshalb noch nie Probleme gehabt. --Chris06 (talk) 13:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Review

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:C%C3%A9line_Bonnier_2017_2.png&diff=prev&oldid=896538881 hi! your review didnt seem to work. maybe you wanna try again? probably a bug in the script? RZuo (talk) 19:43, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

@RZuo thanks for letting me know! Yes, the script is a bit buggy, that happened several times today. This time, I didn't noticed it :(. Günther Frager (talk) 19:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

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 Support --Thi (talk) 08:49, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

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PD-Italy and PD-France licenses

Hi, I saw the various photo deletion proposals in my profile regarding the PD-Italy and PD-France templates and I wanted to apologize for the incorrect use of the aforementioned templates in the hope of using them in the correct way as I think I have done in the most recent uploads. -- SonoGrazy (talk) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

@SonoGrazy: I'm trying to clean a bit the {{PD-Italy}} and {{PD-France}}, so it is possible that I opened several DR on your uploads. The licensing is complex and copying the tags from other similar files sometimes can be problematic. I had the same problem when I started. Non-artistic photos from Italy are usually OK if they were created before 1976 are fine. For French ones, it is more complex because it depends on the photographer. Also the protection passed from 50 years to 70 years, so URAA files can be tricky. Günther Frager (talk) 19:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)