Commons:Deletion requests/File:Twin tornadoes.jpg

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File:Twin tornadoes.jpg

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The photo does come from National Weather Service's website, but the photo was taken by Trent Bolser. Bolser is a private citizen stormchaser, not an agent acting in some official government capacity, and the full photo on the NWS website has an explicit copyright notice. I can't find any evidence of permission to release the photo under CC0, and I would recommend deleting this file in light of COM:PRP as lacking evidence of permission for release under a free license. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:34, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep — The image is also stored on the NWS Web servers (https://www.weather.gov/images/oax/Archives/20140616/twin_tornadoes.jpg). The US federal government specifically states, “The information on National Weather Service (NWS) Web pages are in the public domain, unless specifically noted otherwise, and may be used without charge for any lawful purpose so long as you do not: 1) claim it is your own (e.g., by claiming copyright for NWS information -- see below), 2) use it in a manner that implies an endorsement or affiliation with NOAA/NWS, or 3) modify its content and then present it as official government material. You also cannot present information of your own in a way that makes it appear to be official government information.” (Noting I bolded and italicized part of the statement which is not bolded in the quote). The exact caption on the NWS webpage is “Pilger and Pilger east Tornado (Trent Bosler)”. It does not specifically say the image is not public domain. According to that disclaimed notice, the image must be a public domain image to be on their web servers & the web page does not specifically state anything about it not being public domain. Elijahandskip (talk) 20:02, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    There's a copyright notice in the bottom right of the linked photograph (i.e. © Trent Bolser 2014), so it is the case that the photo is specifically noted otherwise. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:14, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The NWS disclaimer said “The information on National Weather Service (NWS) Web pages are in the public domain, unless specifically noted otherwise…” That indicates the web page will state it is noted otherwise. It does not. Therefore, it falls under the public domain category. Elijahandskip (talk) 20:20, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The web page includes the full photograph—a photograph that includes that very same copyright notice I mentioned above—so the web page does state that the photo is copyrighted. I do not believe it reasonable to conclude that an explicit and watermarked notice that a particular photograph is copyrighted by a third party would fail to qualify as the website having specifically noted otherwise. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:25, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well that is your opinion. I will note, you are opening Pandora’s box (IMO) with all the recent deletion nominations you did. But, we shall see what the community decides. Elijahandskip (talk) 20:27, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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